[外電] Look Ahead: Trade For Nocioni?

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新聞出處 : http://0rz.tw/2bJ96 作者: Jeff Clark --- Tom Ziller of Sactown Royalty brings up an interesting question for Kings fans. Should Andres Nocioni be traded? The overwhelming response seems to indicate that he should be. The Kings are rebuilding and focusing on youth and saving money for next offseason. Nocioni doesn't help them with either priority. 國王的球迷們 你覺得Nocioni該被交易嗎? 一面倒的回覆都是交易他吧 因為國王正在重建 需要在意的是年輕的新血以及為了下一季清出薪資空間 The question that exists now is whether heart and spirit (and the aforementioned talent) is still a need to the degree it was, and if not whether Nocioni's $21 million heart and spirit (and talent) makes enough of a difference to hold onto him beyond the trade deadline, assuming there are suitors? 不重要~ The aforementioned $21 million is what Nocioni is owed over the next 3 seasons (he has a team option for a 4th year as well). As mentioned, that is quite a paycheck for a guy that is more heart than talent. But while he doesn't do much for a rebuilding team, he'd be an excellent fit on a championship contending team. Could the Celtics be interested ...again? 接下來三季Nocioni的薪資要2100萬鎂 這價錢超值 但這對重建中隊伍沒意義 他應該去的是有奪冠競爭力的球隊 而C's會對他感到興趣嗎? Rumors from the trade deadline indicate that the Celtics and Kings were in serious trade negotiations for Nocioni. Chad Ford reported the following at the time. 去年交易截止前有乳摸說C's跟國王在籌劃交易~ We've heard conflicting claims from both teams on who withdrew first. Yet we do have agreement that the Celtics and Kings talked seriously Thursday about sending Nocioni to Boston, which seemingly would have been a huge coup for that team, given the hole created by James Posey's departure in the offseason. Nocioni is a rugged, versatile, 2-position forward who does a lot of the same stuff Posey did. 當時C's認真的在談這筆交易 Nocioni可以填補Posey的空缺 他是個好的搖擺人 The deal likely would have required Boston to part with at least four players from its oft-criticized bench: Glen Davis, Brian Scalabrine, Patrick O'Bryant and the injured Tony Allen. 那時的交易名單包括大寶 吉祥物 O'Bryant & ToAllen Since that trade was discussed, Glen Davis improved his game (and resigned with the team) and Tony Allen came up short on what may be his last chance to prove himself in Boston. Also, the Celtics have added Rasheed Wallace and Marquis Daniels and the Kings have added more young players to the mix. But would these teams revisit these talks sometime before the trade deadline? 但是當那交易在討論時大寶證明了自己的能耐(也續留在C's了) ToAllen也回到場上 希望能抓住最後一個證明自己的機會 當然 C's也補進了Sheed 和 丹丹 但國王跟C's還會再次談起這交易嗎? For the Kings, the pricetag on Nocioni may be coming down. Tom Ziller concludes: Now, is an expiring contract enough incentive to trade Nocioni? Moving him for $0 in 2010-11 salary would give the Kings $18-22 million in cap space next summer. (Enough to sign LeBron!) But given the likelihood of the Kings actually spending $18-22 million next summer, perhaps trading for talent or draft picks with salary relief as a minor concern could be in order. 將Nocioni交易出去可以在明年清出18~2200萬鎂的空間(都夠用來簽李柏榕了!) 但是國王在明年夏天花兩千萬的機率極低 更有可能的是交易來一些樂透簽或是 有潛力的球員 So they would like to get talent and cap space for Andres, and who can blame them? But who knows what other offers they will receive before the deadline? For the Celtics, I do think they'd still be at least interested. He has a fiery tenacity that makes him perfect for playoff basketball. Like Posey before him, he would be able to fill in for Pierce and take some of the defensive assignments that Marquis Daniels wouldn't be able to handle because of his lack of bulk. In fact, if Pierce ever missed any time this year, I would think that this deal would at least be revisited as an option. He does have a large deal (which is what scared Ainge off of Posey last summer), but the annual salary actually decreases each year. 那誰能給國王有潛力的球員呢? C's還是對Nocioni有興趣的 Nocioni有強烈的韌性 讓他能在季後賽做出貢獻 就像Posey之所做的 它能補上PP 然後防守一些丹丹守不了 比較大隻的球員 事實上 假如PP今年缺席了 某些比賽 這交易就會再次被放到檯面上 雖然Nocioni的確不便宜(跟Posey喊出的讓安吉 打退堂鼓的價錢差不多) 不過至少他每年的薪資是逐漸在減少的~ (感謝RonArtest93 feelike大大提供情資~) The principals are still in place for a deal. The Celtics can still offer Scalabrine and Tony Allen as expiring contracts. The trade checker rejects a straight deal of Scal and Tony for Nocioni but it only falls about 7K short. I'm sure the Kings would like someone like Bill Walker. Perhaps Ainge would be willing to give them Walker or Giddens (whomever falls behind on the depth chart). Draft picks don't count in salary matching purposes, so that's not necessary unless the teams think there's an imbalance in value. C's可以提供吉祥物&ToAllen的到期合約 但這被駁回 因為薪資還差了7K 不過國王應該會對一些年輕小將有興趣exB.Walker 或許安吉會給國王Walker或 Giddens So what do you think? Would you want to trade for Nocioni? What would you be willing to give up? When would you want to make such a deal (now or at the deadline)? 所以你們是怎麼想的呢?會想交易來Nocioni嗎?又願意用什麼去換他呢? 何時要做這筆交易呢?現在還是交易期限截止前? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.161.169.149

09/19 15:32, , 1F
幻想一下..先發
09/19 15:32, 1F

09/19 15:33, , 2F
C: Perk PF: KG SF: PP SG: RA PG: Rondo
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09/19 15:33, , 3F
替補
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09/19 15:34, , 4F
C: Sheed PF: 大寶SF: Nocioni SG :丹丹 PG :房子
09/19 15:34, 4F

09/19 15:44, , 5F
這是當年的拓荒者嗎 XDDDDDD
09/19 15:44, 5F

09/19 15:48, , 6F
說真的這交易成功的話 替補可能打得贏國王先發
09/19 15:48, 6F
※ 編輯: nogoodlaugh 來自: 118.161.169.149 (09/19 15:59)

09/19 15:59, , 7F
感謝翻譯呀 希望換的過來!!!
09/19 15:59, 7F

09/19 18:23, , 8F
他不錯 有外線又夠硬
09/19 18:23, 8F

09/19 18:37, , 9F
要拿大寶去換的話替補就不會有大寶啦= =
09/19 18:37, 9F

09/19 19:20, , 10F
如果沒傷兵的話應該是不用換吧 換了明年RA大概留不住
09/19 19:20, 10F

09/19 21:32, , 11F
別忘了我們有TO!!! XD
09/19 21:32, 11F

09/19 21:32, , 12F
換吧!!!
09/19 21:32, 12F

09/19 21:34, , 13F
換了我們還空出一間空間可以簽老將 嘿嘿
09/19 21:34, 13F

09/19 22:00, , 14F
..........
09/19 22:00, 14F

09/19 22:01, , 15F
何必轉去總版呢
09/19 22:01, 15F

09/19 22:01, , 16F
到期合約很好用的,不能這樣一昧追求眼前的利益
09/19 22:01, 16F

09/19 22:30, , 17F
轉總版是因為 總版版主希望多點外電..
09/19 22:30, 17F

09/20 00:05, , 18F
綠血王朝~綠血王朝~綠血王朝~綠血王朝~綠血王朝~
09/20 00:05, 18F

09/20 00:06, , 19F
這篇自high成分太高了,不是美國人自high就比較有理
09/20 00:06, 19F

09/20 00:07, , 20F
不過我佩服原po的勇氣= =
09/20 00:07, 20F

09/20 09:40, , 21F
換吧! 讚!
09/20 09:40, 21F

09/20 20:17, , 22F
這篇真的太自HIGH了,不過我不是很喜歡Nocioni的打法
09/20 20:17, 22F

09/21 00:44, , 23F
Nocioni是個硬漢 但Daniels也ok 真不行季中再來看看
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09/21 02:34, , 24F
我也覺得換會影響雷槍續約...那還是不要好了= =
09/21 02:34, 24F
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