[外絮] 2014這個夏天,湖人展望未來。

看板Lakers作者 (X pro.)時間10年前 (2014/07/22 14:28), 10年前編輯推噓57(58130)
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I’ve had a lot of people ask me about the Lakers and the future. In this town a lot of people want a quick answer, a fast and easy solution to a very difficult question. For Los Angeles, the NBA season is generally viewed as championship or bust. So when the team doesn’t appear to have a championship-caliber roster, it’s hard to compromise and realize that lesser goals are necessary to accept. 很多人都問我關於湖人及他的未來。許多人都想要一個快速、簡單的答案,但問題卻是 如此困難。對於湖人來說,除了冠軍,不然就是失敗的一季。所以只要沒在角逐冠軍的 名單中,其餘的都是很難說服洛城這個城市。 So here’s where we go from here. 就從這裡開始談起吧。 In the movie Rounders, poker renaissance man Matt Damon talks about keeping yourself out of trouble at the table by folding a hand you know doesn’t have a chance. “Throw away your cards the moment you know they can’t win,” the narrator (Damon) tells the viewer. Live to play another hand. Fight another day. Pick your cliche. This is the line I’ve referenced to the Laker fans that have tried to figure out just what to make of this current team and this upcoming season. 在Rounders這部電影中,撲克神手Matt Damon說起如何在滿手爛牌情況下擺脫困境。他 說:「丟了他!在你知道你不會贏的當下。」然後著眼於下一局,遵循你自己的步調。 這句話就是我要送給那些試圖理解制服組對於未來的所做所為的湖迷。 The Lakers do not have a championship roster. I don’t think that’s an outlandish thing to say. I believe if you asked Mitch Kupchak, Jimmy Buss, or any of the other Laker brass they would tell you the same thing. Building a championship-level team is a long, difficult process – the Lakers have just done a damn good job of making it look easy for the past 60 years. The point is, the Lakers don’t have a team that can win it all this season. And, in a town that demands titles, that means the season will be considered a disappointment. So, if you’re the Lakers, you fold the hand and start working towards the next one. The one that you know will win the pot. In Los Angeles, it’s championship or bust, so the second you know that a title isn’ t in the works for this season, begin building for the next championship. 湖人隊不是個冠軍隊伍。這不是什麼驚悚的話。我相信問了庫胖、Jimmy或者隨便抓支制 服組,他們都會這樣回答你。建立一支冠軍隊伍是漫漫長路,但是湖人在過去60年把他 變得跟挖鼻孔一樣簡單。重點是,這季的湖人卻無法走老路。但在這個籃球豪門,這意謂 著令人失望的一季,如果你是湖人,你就會盤算著如何打造下一個贏得歐布萊恩杯的陣容 。對於湖人來說不是冠軍就是失敗,所以在了解贏不了的當下不是賣給其他老闆,而是開 始打造下一個冠軍吧。 That brings me to my main point here. In 2014, the credo for the Lakers and the main point of emphasis should be one thing; develop Julius Randle (and Ryan Kelly/Jordan Clarkson). 2014年,湖人的重點就擺在把這三人養起來。Julius Randle (and Ryan Kelly/Jordan Clarkson) [呃,括號這兩人是怎麼回事!?] If there’s one thing we’ve learned from Spurs (and trust me we’ve learned a lot more than one thing) it’s that home grown, developed talent is a very useful thing. This hasn’t always been something the Lakers have looked to as the core of their success, but there’s no doubt that even when the team was winning championships, they did it with a collection of acquired free agents as well as home grown guys that they knew fit their system. When the team went on their run from 2000-02, they had key role players like Devean George, Derek Fisher and Tyronn Lue. Even though those aren’t names that jump out on a stat sheet, each contributed at key points throughout those years and helped the team become champions. 如果我們有從馬刺身上學到一件事(但絕對不只一件事可以學),那就是"農場"這絕 對不是湖人自古以來的傳統,但不可否認的就算是OK連線,也是有綠葉陪襯著。將一群 適合湖人體系但是甚至無法從先發名單脫穎而出的洛城子弟蒐集起來,這些人後來也都 成為了冠軍杯不可或缺的一部分。 The point here is that not every player on a championship roster is a superstar. While having those superstar players is important, there are many pieces in a title-winning puzzle. While the Lakers wait on the cornerstone pieces, presumably to be filled later, they can still work towards their next title by making sure some of the smaller pieces are there when those bigger assets come along at a later date. 冠軍隊伍絕對不是一狗票的巨頭。當然,有巨頭也是很重要的,他們會成為奪冠最重要 的拼圖。當湖人在找下一個基石時,假設他很快的就被找到了...湖人依然可以花心思 在未來的綠葉上。 This means, at least in my eyes, taking a long, hard look at three players. 這意謂著我們必須認真看待這三人。 Julius Randle is the obvious choice here. He’s the highest pick the Lakers have had in 30 years and the young piece with the most potential currently on the roster. The thought is that he can develop into an All-Star caliber player over the course of his career, becoming a strong addition for a long time. However, on a team that is packed with frontcourt players (the addition of Carlos Boozer only further extenuates the logjam), Randle might have trouble finding consistent playing time if he struggles. Randle’s playing time will depend entirely on the team’s goals for the season and whoever the coach ends up being. If, for instance, the new coach gets the word from management that he’s going to have a long leash and is free to use this season to develop talent like Randle for the future, he’ll get more and more minutes regardless of how he performs. But, if it’s a coach who’s already fighting for his job, Randle’s leash will likely be shorter than that of the new boss. Randle絕對是最顯著的目標。他是湖人過去30年所獲的最高順位也是目前最年輕最有潛力 的。這就是湖人的如意算盤,他能進化成一個全明星,能為湖人提供很長一段時間的能量 。但是湖人找了個備胎。這將大大的影響到Randle的時間,如果Randle打得很掙扎。而他 在場上的時間也取決於湖人的態度及最終教練的人選。若是總教練還要花心思顧自己的飯 碗,他也只能隨人顧性命了。 I’ll state, purely for the record, that I think Randle will be free to work through the difficulties of life as a rookie NBAer at his leisure. 我相信他Hold的住的,做為一個rookie。 One of the best things that can happen for the Lakers’ future is another long, tough season. The team’s first round draft pick belongs to Phoenix unless they land in the top five of the lottery, something they didn’t even pull off after last year’s historically disheartening campaign. So, conceivably, that’s a bit of a longshot. Plus, the team’s roster is without question more talented than it was a year ago, meaning that even if they wanted to fall into one of the top five slots in the draft, they might have some difficulty pulling it off. 最有可能的下一季會依然是坦的節奏。明年的樂透簽可以說是送給太陽了除非坦到前五。 這季都這麼坦了依然沒辦法辦到前五。別忘了,下一季的陣容天賦可是比上一季好上許多 ,還能多坦? Welcome to basketball purgatory. 卡關了。 Still, going back to my previous point, there’s something beneficial about being a struggling team without a chance at a title. The benefit would be the knowledge that there’s nothing to lose other than a few more games. But, in the grand scheme of things, that’s not that big of a deal if those minutes spent losing become minutes spent learning and growing. 呃,回頭想想,當爛到底的隊伍也是有好處的,那就是沒什麼好輸的了XD。但前提是, 有賺到經驗值。 Take a look at last season. Specifically at Ryan Kelly. 看看上季的凱利。 As the 48th pick in the draft, Kelly was a mere afterthought. Most fans figured he was someone the Lakers picked purely because they had to pick somebody and, hey what the hell why not this guy? In almost any other Laker season, Kelly would have found himself developing a beautifully charming long-term relationship with the bench. Eventually, as tends to happen in these situations, the bench would get very clingy and throw a fit whenever he left it. By the end of the season it would be far too late for a divorce, let alone an annulment. To avoid the lame simile, Kelly simply wouldn’t have had the chance to showcase what he’s able to do. 這個來自第48順位的凱利只是順便簽的,對於大多數湖迷來說就是這樣。但,該死的為何 認為他不行?在大部分湖人的球季,他將會是很稱職的開特力球員XD。在過去湖人的成 功下。板凳都過於依賴且替代性很高。但是現在卻來不及改善這個惡習,只好讓Kelly負 擔更多除了守開特力以外的事情。 For many rookies in the league, especially those taken in the second round, the opportunities to prove oneself are scarce. Because of this, when the opportunity does arise, nerves tend to take over a bit and there are growing pains. They know they don’t have the leniency that a top pick will get to fight through those growing pains and develop more confidence in their abilities, ultimately making them better players. This can become a sickening downward spiral as increased struggles leads to decreased confidence and an even further decreased amount of time spent on the court. 通常第二輪的新秀都很難有機會證明自己。因為這樣,當機會來的時候反而有點戰戰兢兢 。他們知道他們沒有太多容錯空間並且在挫折中長大。這變成是一種惡性循環。 Eventually they flame out and move on to a different career. 最後就走火入魔長歪了。 No offense to Ryan Kelly, but that was likely the direction he was heading. But, due to the team’s struggles last season he was able to stay on the floor, fight through some of his development issues and regain some confidence in himself and his abilities on the court. By the end of the season he was a staple in the rotation and (seemingly) a valuable rotation player for the future. 沒有冒犯凱利的意思,但他現在的處境就是這樣。好家在,湖人上季很用力坦,所以 凱利能在場上找信心。最後變成固定輪值的一員。(確定不是因為MDA?)而且還打出 他自己的價值。 And, with a championship out of the question this year, the team should attempt this same strategy in 2014-15 with Randle, Kelly (again), and another new addition, Jordan Clarkson. 在奪冠不是湖人該煩惱的事情的時候,應該要繼續上一季的坦。 Will all three of those guys still be on the roster the next time the Lakers hoist the Larry O’Brien trophy? Probably not. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t anything else to be gained by seeing what they can do and maximizing their abilities. 這三人會舉起下次湖人的歐布萊恩盃嗎?不見得。但這不代表現在不需要激發出他們的 潛能。 Let’s consider one possible route for one second. We’ll use Clarkson purely for the sake of the situation, not because of any basis in reality or even my own predictions. 再想想Clarkson,簽下他僅僅是為了一個字:賭。 In 2014, the team struggles but allows Clarkson to gain confidence and become a solid rotation player. Due to his growth on the court, he becomes a player with some value that is seen around the league as a promising, young asset. He becomes valuable, not only in his on-court abilities, but as a possible trade asset to bring in a larger, perhaps more superstar-esque piece. 這一季,Clarkson在爛隊刷出不錯的成績也成為固定輪值的一員。因為他的成長他可能 變成一顆新星。他的價值也可能建立在交易桌上,為了帶來大腿更粗的球員。 The point is that rookies struggle. Why? They’re rookies. That’s what they do. Kobe Bryant averaged 7.6 points his rookie season. Kevin Garnett averaged 10.4. Anthony Bennett, last year’s No. 1 overall pick, averaged just 4.2. Bryant and Garnett were both allowed to work through their struggles with continued playing time and ultimately develop, and at one point in each of their careers was considered the best player in the league. We’ll wait and see with Anthony Bennett, who certainly doesn’t look to be a future KG/Kobe, but that’s not really my argument here. For the Lakers, let the young guns go out there and learn what it means to be successful at an NBA level. Give them the reassurance that regardless of their struggles, and there will be struggles, they will get the chances they need to prove whether or not they can hack it in the bigs. 但新秀總是會掙扎會有撞牆期,不然他們就不是新秀了。老大場均7.6、KG場均10.4 、去年的狀(水)元(貨)AB場均4.2(.....),KB跟KG都因為穩定的上場時間而撐過來了。 接下來看看AB是否能跟兩位先輩一樣,但這不是重點。重點是我們都該給他們耐心不論 是否打得掙扎。一定會有撞牆期,但是他們也因而得到機會證明自己。 It’s going to be a tough season for the Lakers. Even if everything goes perfectly according to plan and the team performs at it’s absolute peak, it’ s difficult to see them advancing past the first round of the postseason. 這將會是湖人艱難的一季,就算所有事情都完美的照著劇本走,大概也會是一輪遊。 But that shouldn’t be the focal point of things for this team. 但是不是一輪遊並不重要。 There are opportunities within each difficult season to help better prepare yourself for the future. The Lakers do have the opportunity to do that in 2015. It’s just up to them to make sure they do. 每次失敗的一季就是一次轉機,湖人在2015又得到了一次機會,端看他們願不願意坦到 底。 隨便抓篇文章翻,翻完才發現好像沒啥重點囧,太無聊隨意翻翻,翻太爛請見諒XD。 原文網址:http://0rz.tw/VhMzm -- "I was probably born a scorer, but I was made a winner. Whatever works, whatever wins championships, wins games, that's what I do." -Kobe Bryant -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.142.127.210 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1406010500.A.D9C.html

07/22 14:34, , 1F
推用心
07/22 14:34, 1F

07/22 14:35, , 2F
看完立馬推
07/22 14:35, 2F

07/22 14:36, , 3F
重點就是上季坦得好。
07/22 14:36, 3F
※ 編輯: cc1793 (223.142.127.210), 07/22/2014 14:36:50

07/22 14:37, , 4F
這季也要努力坦就對了
07/22 14:37, 4F
You got the credit. 大家都很會做總結,早知道我翻一句就好= = ※ 編輯: cc1793 (223.142.127.210), 07/22/2014 14:39:06

07/22 14:38, , 5F
全員健康打球融入戰術就滿足了~~~~~~
07/22 14:38, 5F

07/22 14:39, , 6F
翻譯推
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07/22 14:44, , 7F
坦字起頭 坦字結尾
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07/22 14:46, , 8F
坦坦坦坦~~~~
07/22 14:46, 8F

07/22 14:49, , 9F
裡面提到新秀會遇到的問題,林大多都遇過了不是嗎?
07/22 14:49, 9F

07/22 14:56, , 10F
選秀簽都給太陽了 坦有用意嗎?
07/22 14:56, 10F

07/22 14:59, , 11F
這季只能練新人了,希望老大+林發揮能有40勝 也不錯
07/22 14:59, 11F

07/22 15:00, , 12F
健康第一就好,拜託QQ
07/22 15:00, 12F

07/22 15:00, , 13F
夠坦就能拿回籤
07/22 15:00, 13F

07/22 15:02, , 14F
不是要改選秀規則嗎 坦得好也不一定有好籤反之亦同
07/22 15:02, 14F

07/22 15:03, , 15F
不太可能坦到前五籤 除非打得比去年爛
07/22 15:03, 15F

07/22 15:03, , 16F
我還是想看季後賽>20勝 所以別再受傷了
07/22 15:03, 16F

07/22 15:04, , 17F
隊醫該換一換了,感覺球員都自己要配有個別醫師 ...
07/22 15:04, 17F

07/22 15:08, , 18F
其實我一直覺得如果都健康的話 去年都還蠻有搞頭的
07/22 15:08, 18F

07/22 15:08, , 19F
今年也一樣 應該要首重健康維持
07/22 15:08, 19F

07/22 15:09, , 20F
太陽的醫療團隊可以學習 他們會固定頻率檢視球員的動作
07/22 15:09, 20F

07/22 15:09, , 21F
發現潛在受傷的危險並設計動作去加強較弱的肌群
07/22 15:09, 21F

07/22 15:10, , 22F
湖人隊這種豪門 球員應該都是重要資產 應該要搞個大團隊
07/22 15:10, 22F

07/22 15:17, , 23F
還沒開季 又開始打預防針了
07/22 15:17, 23F

07/22 15:27, , 24F
看到季後賽大於20勝,我一開始想拿到冠軍也才剛好20勝阿
07/22 15:27, 24F

07/22 16:03, , 25F
這麼大的城市隊醫怎麼這麼爛.....
07/22 16:03, 25F

07/22 16:12, , 26F
老大表示:我們的隊醫在德國..orz
07/22 16:12, 26F

07/22 16:15, , 27F
湖人的Power tanking不是前五? 應該是有機會
07/22 16:15, 27F

07/22 16:37, , 28F
我還是不看好Kelly......雖然版模是超弱化版司機
07/22 16:37, 28F

07/22 16:43, , 29F
目標老八,GO LAKERS!
07/22 16:43, 29F

07/22 16:48, , 30F
今年不用坦了吧,要前五太難了
07/22 16:48, 30F

07/22 17:02, , 31F
我也覺得該先補強的是補師~
07/22 17:02, 31F

07/22 17:26, , 32F
連教練都沒決定就先確定要坦了?......
07/22 17:26, 32F

07/22 17:27, , 33F
展望明年FA
07/22 17:27, 33F

07/22 17:34, , 34F
今年倒數第五跟西區第五一樣困難!
07/22 17:34, 34F

07/22 17:36, , 35F
倒數前五真的超難 唯一可能就是KOBE LIN Randle全傷
07/22 17:36, 35F

07/22 17:38, , 36F
還有一個可能啊,不請教練。
07/22 17:38, 36F

07/22 17:38, , 37F
kobe健康還能坦到前五,那全隊的皮膚一定超緊緻
07/22 17:38, 37F

07/22 17:41, , 38F
不坦也很難目前西區看陣容有機會比我們爛的也只有爵士
07/22 17:41, 38F

07/22 17:41, , 39F
跟灰狼(如果Love走)
07/22 17:41, 39F

07/22 17:44, , 40F
我想只要善用擋拆 基本都有30勝,所以不可能倒數5名
07/22 17:44, 40F

07/22 17:47, , 41F
金塊也有機會啦,不過湖人也不是沒機會進老八啦,關鍵
07/22 17:47, 41F

07/22 17:47, , 42F
不在Kobe,在Lin如何帶這隻球隊,總之湖人是實力很迷的球
07/22 17:47, 42F

07/22 17:47, , 43F
07/22 17:47, 43F

07/22 17:48, , 44F
我們得隊醫不是爛很久了,怎麼都不換,,
07/22 17:48, 44F

07/22 17:52, , 45F
不過身為湖人迷,還是想看他們打季後賽啊。
07/22 17:52, 45F

07/22 18:07, , 46F
讓Kobe拚一下最後的榮光 當然要拚季後賽呀
07/22 18:07, 46F

07/22 18:10, , 47F
然後主帥可以帶出來的化學效應是什麼 也很重要
07/22 18:10, 47F

07/22 18:10, , 48F
雖然陣容不是夢幻級 但也不是不能一拚
07/22 18:10, 48F

07/22 18:12, , 49F
X真的可能等Nash當總欸?大破大立一下XDDD
07/22 18:12, 49F

07/22 18:16, , 50F
明年有lin kobe 很值得期待
07/22 18:16, 50F

07/22 18:21, , 51F
我們還有BOOOOOOOOOOO~
07/22 18:21, 51F

07/22 18:23, , 52F
不可能連線不可能進八強不可能嗎?
07/22 18:23, 52F

07/22 18:25, , 53F
Adidas;沒有不可能
07/22 18:25, 53F

07/22 18:34, , 54F
快決定教練吧
07/22 18:34, 54F

07/22 18:42, , 55F
當教練也是一門學問 完全不贊成沒有經驗的Nash接總教練
07/22 18:42, 55F

07/22 18:44, , 56F
當個助理教練還算勉勉強強 磨練個幾年再想總教練的事
07/22 18:44, 56F

07/22 18:50, , 57F
Nash已經不只一次公開說過他對當教練完全沒興趣啦~~~~嘎嘎
07/22 18:50, 57F

07/22 20:04, , 58F
比賽好看,有激情最重要
07/22 20:04, 58F

07/23 00:08, , 59F
推隨便翻翻 卻順得很誇張
07/23 00:08, 59F

07/23 00:34, , 60F
能進季後賽就算成功 加油囉!!
07/23 00:34, 60F

07/23 00:36, , 61F
進季後賽就不下老何啦 青黃不接 系統重打 選帥又慢
07/23 00:36, 61F

07/23 09:23, , 62F
基本上開季應該是接dantoni的系統啦 畢竟每個人都打過
07/23 09:23, 62F

07/23 11:34, , 63F
LG的鄉民推測湖人在等Rivers
07/23 11:34, 63F

07/23 11:36, , 64F
等他辭職嗎?不過他在 LAC 拿的職位是 HD+GM 耶,那 Mitch會
07/23 11:36, 64F

07/23 11:36, , 65F
給他讓位嗎XD
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07/23 11:38, , 66F
加油爭取河流阿 快艇老闆不要賣拜託XD 現階段最好教練選擇
07/23 11:38, 66F

07/23 11:38, , 67F
尤其是他通常跟球員都處的很好 人和超棒的一個教練
07/23 11:38, 67F

07/23 11:42, , 68F
河流跟湖人沒有心結嗎?之前是死敵耶
07/23 11:42, 68F

07/23 11:43, , 69F
就球場上的較勁 沒什麼心結吧
07/23 11:43, 69F

07/23 11:43, , 70F
原來再等河流~那可以理解...XDDD
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07/23 11:44, , 71F
有預感就是他了...XD Scott:
07/23 11:44, 71F

07/23 11:44, , 72F
不過史達林在拖什麼? 有20億也,而且開季就被聯盟接
07/23 11:44, 72F

07/23 11:45, , 73F
管,他有什麼好處值得再拖下去?
07/23 11:45, 73F

07/23 11:54, , 74F
他都這麼老了錢也花不完,就聯盟讓他不爽,他也要讓聯盟不爽
07/23 11:54, 74F

07/23 12:21, , 75F
原來是為了爭一口氣不為錢XD?
07/23 12:21, 75F

07/23 12:23, , 76F
他的$應該到死都花不完吧
07/23 12:23, 76F

07/23 12:30, , 77F
http://onforb.es/1mCmjnc 19 億鎂、78 歲,錢真的沒差了XD
07/23 12:30, 77F

07/23 13:05, , 78F
那請他繼續堅持下去,我很好奇聯盟會怎麼對付他
07/23 13:05, 78F

07/23 13:07, , 79F
聯盟或許會號召球員不要加盟快艇。
07/23 13:07, 79F

07/23 13:19, , 80F
比較倒楣的就是有約在身的快艇球員 跟快艇球迷
07/23 13:19, 80F

07/23 14:03, , 81F
把CP3給我還來
07/23 14:03, 81F

07/23 20:17, , 82F
樓上 可是瑞凡...
07/23 20:17, 82F

07/23 21:40, , 83F
大家不要受傷 Lin數據再進步一些 老k開心的打完生涯
07/23 21:40, 83F

07/23 21:40, , 84F
蘭德爾多學經驗 下一季期待的就這些了 也知足了
07/23 21:40, 84F

07/24 00:12, , 85F
我是覺得你可以鄙視他 但是球隊是他的 硬要他賣掉也很
07/24 00:12, 85F

07/24 19:47, , 86F
希望 可以養出下一個自家養的球星
07/24 19:47, 86F

07/25 02:46, , 87F
英文好好,可以私訊告訴我怎麼念的嗎?
07/25 02:46, 87F

07/25 09:58, , 88F
沒有很好啦,多看有興趣的文章,大意的單字背一下這樣。
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