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Fw: [轉錄] 神器譜：明國槍械落後同時期的西方

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作者: Reewalker - 發表於 2022/04/11 12:07(2年前)

30^F→kuma660224: 跟國產無關是公營體制+朱家勞役工匠04/10 10:41

31^F→kuma660224: 好的民間工匠不會想去官廠當低薪勞役04/10 10:42

32^F→kuma660224: 內部沒有競爭形不成產業04/10 10:43

33^F→kuma660224: 槍械又不是能去市場買的04/10 10:44

34^F→kuma660224: 是壟斷性國營加上近似奴役的工匠制度04/10 10:44

35^F→kuma660224: 導致中央官槍都是垃圾邊城外貿民槍反而ok04/10 10:45

36^F→kuma660224: 但民間做槍是違法的不成體系規模04/10 10:46

37^F→kuma660224: 啥明軍火力中毒症，笑死，一半是吹的04/10 10:48

38^F→kuma660224: 其實只是近戰不行想靠火力火力又弱04/10 10:49

[轉錄] 聽說甲午戰爭當初大家是看好中國？

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作者: Reewalker - 發表於 2018/08/23 06:08(6年前)

14^F→kuma660224: 是剛好遇上新式速射砲佔優勢的空檔180.217.147.37 07/19 10:56

15^F→kuma660224: 那批速射砲本來是想要賣給清朝的180.217.147.37 07/19 10:56

17^F→kuma660224: 但清朝覺得優先性不大，省錢用在別處180.217.147.37 07/19 10:57

18^F→kuma660224: 這批西洋速射砲，幾年後被日本買走180.217.147.37 07/19 10:57

21^F→kuma660224: 反過來把未持續更新的清朝海軍打殘180.217.147.37 07/19 10:58

22^F→kuma660224: 噸位只是防禦，持續更新武器才是火力180.217.147.37 07/19 10:58

23^F→kuma660224: 軍艦淘汰不快，但加強火力是持續進行180.217.147.37 07/19 10:59

25^F→kuma660224: 沒跟上武裝新潮流，戰場就吃虧180.217.147.37 07/19 11:00

28^F→kuma660224: 若把那批速射炮買下來升級會改善很多180.217.147.37 07/19 11:01

35^F→kuma660224: 清朝沒有更新武器的預算，有噸位優勢180.217.147.37 07/19 11:38

36^F→kuma660224: 也不會變成火力投射優勢。180.217.147.37 07/19 11:38

37^F→kuma660224: 因為省錢，所以新式速射砲被敵人買走180.217.147.37 07/19 11:39

42^F→kuma660224: 舊砲射速慢，跟不上敵艦的運動性180.217.147.37 07/19 11:42

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