[情報] 微軟將AMD分支預測改進移植到W11 23H2

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https://reurl.cc/QEXgg2 If you're patiently waiting for Windows 11's 24H2 update to see a performance bump for your Zen 3, Zen 4, or Zen 5 CPU, you no longer need to twiddle your thumbs. In a statement to Tom's Hardware, AMD said that the branch prediction optimizations allowing for those improvements have been backported to Windows 11 23H2. The update, KB5041587, can be found under Windows Update > Advanced options > Optional updates. "We expect the performance uplift to be very similar between 24H2 and 23H2 with KB5041587 installed," an AMD spokesperson said. Windows 11 24H2 is currently in Release Preview as part of Windows Insider. A handful of reviewers have found multiple games showing performance uplifts, though at least one has seen regressions in some titles as well. While the improved performance should go back to Zen 3, it's really AMD's new Ryzen 9000 series processors that need a bit of a shine. Some of the new chips, like the Ryzen 9 9950X, saw negative reviews when critics couldn't replicate AMD's performance uplift claims. AMD claimed that numerous factors led to this occurrence, from Intel's 13th and 14th Gen Core instability issues to using a Windows "admin" profile rather than a standard user account. "[The Ryzen 9 9950X] lags behind competing chips in gaming, and the generational gains are small enough in some productivity workloads that the previous-gen Ryzen 9 7950X is an attractive alternative," Tom's Hardware managing editor Paul Alcorn wrote in his review at launch. But if the branch prediction in Windows 11 24H2 — and now Windows 11 23H2 via this optional update — increases performance as dramatically as preview builds have shown, it could potentially breathe more life into AMD's latest processors when it comes to gaming and certain productivity workloads. We'll have to do some testing of our own to see the difference. AMD referred to this branch prediction as "AMD-specific," so we'll have to do some digging to see if there's an Intel version of this code or if Ryzen owners will have something to brag about with this update. 看起來是不需要特別裝測試版W11 直接安裝KB5041587更新 ZEN3-ZEN5直接無痛升級 B在站看到有留言說用5600玩BF2042 110提升到130張 i皇真是多事之秋 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 27.52.161.47 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1724833033.A.695.html ※ 編輯: AIRURU (27.52.161.47 臺灣), 08/28/2024 16:18:14
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windows 10呢
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反觀
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再次証明買amd戰未來(?
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連ZEN3也有!!!!
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zen3也有 佛
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※ 編輯: AIRURU (27.52.161.47 臺灣), 08/28/2024 16:27:47
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08/28 16:27, 3周前 , 6F
AMD傳統雞血
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那都提升的話zen5還是沒贏zen4多少啊
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Amd戰未來 yes!
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回家馬上裝
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Intel摳連
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希望能做個windows10的雞血補丁
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AM4:我超勇的.JPG
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也該開放給WIN10用戶吧?
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08/28 16:40, 3周前 , 14F
戰未來 YES
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更新前是不是要先跑分一下
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W10只到22H2 感覺除了安全性更新之外沒啥
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人權
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微軟又多了一個誘因拐用戶放棄win10了
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win10只剩安全性更新，應該是不會上了
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喔喔，就是今天的這一個更新
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Zen3也有太能打了吧
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參考這張圖來看，按照之前的平均+10%，更
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新後可能真的R5默秒全了
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該拋棄win10惹
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!!這個提升很可以誒 I皇又躺一刀了
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微軟出手幫AMD了?!
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哇這是會讓我升win11的一大誘因
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cherry pick
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Win11真的沒那麼糟
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這幾天有看到不少人測試 zen3以上升級有
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感
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5600X 再戰十年！
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超爽的 5800x直接升級快變成原本x3d
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這樣也行喔AMD 真有你的XDDD
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HU之前才做過IA兩家win10 vs win11下遊
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戲比較，明顯都是10勝，現在看起來像是
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還有 93 則推文
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漏洞出來的時候 zen4又還沒出
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遊戲能變快誰管你漏洞
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現在還要扯這個
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I粉只能打這個是不是
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還要假設沒有補好XD
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太神啦 沒想到家中兩台ZEN3躺著又升級
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了
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Amd躺著贏麻了
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AMD YES
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真爽 沒想到5950x也能有份
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因為微軟的os是由自己的編譯器編譯，所以
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改進了分支預測的效能？所以其實是編譯器
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改進了這部分所以連帶zen3、zen4都進步了
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AM4再戰十年！
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i粉下一次會改打SMT漏洞嗎？
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畢竟î皇最近沒有很在乎HT 的感覺
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X3D 也一樣吃到啊
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希望58x3d升完變78x3d(
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compiler和os開始向AMD轉向之後, intel
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又要更慘了
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以前向人家推intel我還會說compiler優勢
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太大能買i就買i, 想想也才不到5年
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不勝唏噓
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AMD真的是戰未來的cpu，竟然連zen3都受惠
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GG今天把5700X3D那台掛網遊戲串流機升級S
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sd到1T，測了一下多核效能強了一點，晚上
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玩一下GUILDWAR2，失落方舟，黑色沙漠看
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看
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均+16.9% 根本遊戲界CPU的山羊
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沒想到我的5600u也有這福份
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就比較通用的設計就比較能吃到其他層的優
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化紅利...
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所以現在會建議10升11了嗎？
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可以升呀，已經過了bug一堆的痛苦期了
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可以裝了
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現在升級就是界面那些要習慣而已
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看人測試 還是輸win10一節啊 慘
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