Re: [閒聊] Matyas Kuti

看板Rubiks作者daleleu (--以上為智障名單--)時間16年前 (2008/02/23 14:04)推噓0(0推 0噓 8→)

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(翻譯有錯誤請指正) 好的, 我們來看看. 我在之前的文章已經討論過這件事, 但現在我有更詳細的資料. 以下的影片是 2007世界盃比賽中, kuti盲解15顆, 在盲解到第2顆所拍攝. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEbkrjTeag

我在之前的文章討論的, 就是4分00秒~4分40秒的部分. 影片中看的出他完全打亂了corner, 很神奇的, 他竟然知道該怎麼解回來. 有人說這可能是一個翻轉corner的公式. 嗯, 我不這麼認為. 我重建了kuti當時比賽時, 每一步的解法, 也就是影片中的4分00秒到5分19秒的部份. 我認真的說, 只有兩種人. 會看完這段影片, 還覺得沒有"影片證據"可以證明kuti作弊. 1. 完全不懂盲解流程的人 2. 頑固的笨蛋. 我已經沒有其他字眼可以形容, 我目前還沒遇到, 看完影片後, 還相信kuti沒作弊的人. 來看看影片中發生了什麼事. 在4:00時, kuti已經解完了CO的部份(約花了一分鐘) 接著, 他應該做了一個setup, 然後換三邊, 再將setup逆做回來. 我們來看看他做了什麼. 他用D' L' F2來Setup, 接著換三邊, 然後做了F2 D L !! 他在逆回setup時, 順序做錯了 (daleleu註: 正確順序應該是F2 L D), 因為這個錯誤, 他完全打亂了corner跟edge. 他在完全看不到的情況下, 竟然知道他打亂了整個方塊. 正常情況下, 他只需要做L' D' 再接L D就可以修正這個錯誤. 但他沒有, 他開始觀察, 然後一直重覆的轉, 想把corner翻正. 包括做了 z U'R'U z' 來把黃色的corner放回第一層. 或用翻角公式來翻角. 我重建了他整段解法, 也做成Java applet, 網址如下 http://solvethecube.110mb.com/kuti.htm [解說] Scramble: U R2 F2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 L2 U R U' D F' U F B' R' U L2 ( U面白色, F面藍色) kuti解法如下: [換三角] d' L D F2 R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' F2 D' L' d [Setup] d2 D' L' F2 [換三邊] M2 U M U2 M' U M2 [逆著setup(順序錯了)] F2 D L [觀察方塊] y2 U U' [重新塞回D面的corner] yz U'R'U z'y U' y'2 [J字PLL (N13) ] L' U R U' L U2 R' U R U2 R' [換三邊] R' x y R' R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' R y' x' R [用翻角公式翻角] L2 z' U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' U' R U L z L2 y2 [換三邊] M' U M U2 M' U M [換三邊] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R [轉動方塊] y2 x2 y y [換三邊] M' U M U2 M' U M [換三邊] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R [轉動方塊] y' z2 y' y z2 [T字PLL] R y2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' http://tinyurl.com/2r5t7y 以上的影片解法重建, 已經足以證明kuti是個作弊者了... ※ 引述《chevylove (C'est ma vie)》之銘言： : Allright, here it comes. : I already talked about this issue in an earlier post, but I have more details : now: The 2nd solve in the 15 cubes multiple blindfolded at the World : Championships 07. The video is here: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyEbkrjTeag

: The part I talked about earlier is 4:00 – 4:40. He seems to mess up the : corners. And then he magically knows how to correct his mistake. : Somebody suggested that it might be an algorithm that also twists corners. : Well, I have news: I reconstructed the whole drama: from 4:00 – 5:19. : Seriously, if a person still believes that no visual aid was involved after : seeing this, he is either: : A) A person who does not know the first thing about blindfold cubing. : B) A stubborn dumbass : I have no other words to describe it. I don't see how anyone can still : believe he did not cheat after this. Here is what happened: : At 4:00, the corners are solved (after about a minute of solving). : Then he does some setup moves, a three cycle, and the inverse of the setup : moves. : Next, he uses D' L' F2 as setup moves, then a three cycle, then F2 D L!! He : inverts the moves in the wrong order, completely messing up the corners and : some edges again. Now, had he realised that he made a mistake without seeing : it, he would have just done L' D' L D to correct it. But this was clearly not : the case. Instead, he starts looking around, then starts doing the corners : all over again, including a move like z U'R'U z' to insert a yellow corner in : the first layer again, and a commutator to twist two corners. : The reconstructed part of the solve is below. I also made an applet: : http://solvethecube.110mb.com/kuti.htm : Scramble: U R2 F2 L2 U B2 D2 L2 U2 L2 U R U' D F' U F B' R' U L2 (white on : top, blue on front) : Solution: : [Three cycle] d' L D F2 R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' F2 D' L' d : [Setup moves] d2 D' L' F2 : [Three cycle] M2 U M U2 M' U M2 : [Wrong inverse of setup moves] F2 D L : [Looking around] y2 U U' : [Inserting D-layer corner] yz U'R'U z'y U' y'2 : [J-Permutation] L' U R U' L U2 R' U R U2 R' : [Three cycle] R' x y R' R2 U R U R' U' R' U' R' U R' R y' x' R : [Twisting two corners with commutator] L2 z' U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' : U' R U L z L2 y2 : [Three cycle] M' U M U2 M' U M : [Three cycle] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R : [Some rotations] y2 x2 y y : [Three cycle] M' U M U2 M' U M : [Three cycle] R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R : [Some rotations] y' z2 y' y z2 : [T-Permuatation] R y2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' : http://tinyurl.com/2r5t7y : This video reconstruction is enough prooving that Kuti is cheating... -- ◣◢/ ████ ◥◤◥◥◥◤ ◥ ●。＜ ◤ 我喜歡玩方塊 ~ 科科 ◥*▽*◤▄ http://0rz.tw/622Er <爹﹀ ψmaviswang -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.169.140.24

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